Side-blog dedicated to monster high and associated goodies. Because I'm just sort of getting into MH and I don't want to annoy every other person I know. ;)
Now I'm one of those "I just want one or two dolls" people who hasn't been able to stop. Favourite ghouls are Spectra, Ghoulia and Abbey.
Imagine one of the mansters challenging Heath to the ice bucket challenge; they dump the bucket over him but theres nothing in it, Heath is all confused and suddenly out of nowhere Abbey just falls on top of him.
POCs Monster High has
- Cleo (if she’s Egyptian then she’s technically black)
- Robecca (Up to you I guess, but judging by the color of her skin, she’s most likely a mixed race)
- Gigi Grant
- Frankie (In the books, when she puts make up on, her skin is tan)
POCs Ever After High has
- Cedar Wood
- Briar Beauty
I think Robecca’s black rather than mixed race. I don’t think the race of her inventor is really relevant as he built her rather than birthed her. I mean, like, she’s a robot, so she doesn’t really have a “race”, but I think it’s pretty clear she was meant to be a black girl.
BUT WHAT ABOUT US LATINOS???
i kinda saw briar as latina that might be just me… i don’t know any Latino characters in popular media besides the ladies in OITNB and Sofia Vergara in modern family who doesn’t even count because she is so stereotypical for comedy’s sake
anyway… i love the diversity idea, i think everyone has a right to want to be part of something they love. so we should spam the tag with dolls of all colors that we DO like, not complain about ones we don’t. lets make the tag a happy place yeah?
I definitely think Briar is Latina. :) There’s also Skelita in MH, Callie Torres in Grey’s Anatomy.
The universe is seeing fit that I have a 3rd Catty Noir to buy
and even better - one that appears to possibly have bangs long enough to blend in with the rest of Catty’s hair, which would only aide in my adventures & hairstyles for her.
I’m unsure why this is happening for/to me but I’m definitely NOT going to look this gift
horsecat in the mouth and will instead just be sure to buy her.
Anonymous said: Maybe if they continue the trend of daughters of males (Cedar, Cerise, Melody) being POC they could also make sons of females the same way, so Alistair has something going for him and Bunny also. Cari, Ginger and Mouscedes also could become POC, because EAH/MH seems fond of making anthros and non-humans into POC (which is problematic, but representation is probably a more pressing issue). Atm more POC is the issue and it needs to steer away from this tokenism.
Hmm, not going to follow with Cerise being the daughter of a male character. I’ve been quiet about this, but I don’t like how the fandom emphasizes Cerise’s Wolf heritage over her Hood one. The one thing I think EAH has over MH is that its gender distribution in regards to the parents is fair, even in favor of the mothers if I am not mistaken. While MH…. well, for example, last SDCC we got Casta as the child of a woman, but River and Lorna have been tied to their fathers, while Iris and Manny only bother mentioning their fathers in the diaries. And this is a trend with MH: mothers are way more erased or otherwise made less significant than fathers, which is one thing to be a trend in male and “gender-neutral” franchises, but is a particularly bitter pill in female franchises.
I find discussion on Cerise’s relation to her parents great, but it so often comes down to erasure of her mother’s existence rather than an analysis of how Cerise’s identity is decided for her and how her self tries to cope with that that I just stay away from it. Cerise isn’t any less the daughter of a woman than she is of a man.
I don’t know if it’s a trend for cisswap children to be POC. Mostly thinking of the Crumbs, Kitty, and Maddie here. But the POC cast is def anthro/non-human leaning. Myself, I was thinking of Cari as POC because waterpipe + vaguely orientalist book art. If there’s any Wonderlandian it’d take nerve to design white it’s the caterpillar. As for the other five trademarks + Nathan, I think the only one I don’t find “individually obligated” to be POC is Jillian (Jillian’s more on the “Mattel better use her to counter its ableism” side of things because of that Chapter 1 backgrounder’s design. Not that I think the two can’t overlap, but EAH has yet to prove it agrees). Alistair, Bunny and Cari have to compensate for Madeline, Lizzie, and Kitty. Ginger has to compensate for the Crumbs. If Mattel’s gonna do something as shitty as making the main black girl wooden, providing racist fans with worthless ammo but still ammo, then they better see it through and design Nathan as a brown/black prince because right now the male royalty cast is rather lacking melanin. Mouscedes carries the same argument somewhat, but with the anthro cast and limited melanin among the female royalty.
That’s a really good point, actually, about the parentage of characters. You’re so right that fandom tends to emphasize
As far as monster parents go, that may be to do with early Hammer and Universal monsters being mostly male, which is where they went typically to begin with. And there again you have Deuce being the male character with a mother monster. I can never remember which of Jackson’s parents is the J/H monster and which is the fire elemental - I always feel like it’s his mother who’s the J/H which I find particularly interesting given the nature of that type of “monster”, but that might just be my headcanon, I haven’t read Jackson’s diary. I wonder why, when they made CA Cupid, they went with Eros as her father instead of Aphrodite?
Tbh I don’t really want to think about Manny’s mother… I mean…. there was one Minotaur, and presumably…. I mean…. Athens gave up virgins as sacrifices…. I’m just saying, that’s some dark, dark shit, right there. So I don’t blame them from just side-stepping the whole issue.
My favourite parentage thingie is Spectra’s because oooooo mysteriousss what happened to them was she a normie who died etc how did they die was it must have been awful….? and man I so do not want them to trash that in her movie and just retcon the whole thing.
Anyway your post was great and I just took it way off-topic. I don’t get the whole thing EAH has with racial diversity. I know a lot of their inspiration subject matter is drawn from Germany but this is a kid’s line man they don’t care about fairy tale accuracy, and the adult collectors are generally more interested in representation than accuracy. So…. why all the white people? (Is Briar meant to be Hispanic? I always feel like she’s meant to be, but I can’t tell? And I’m keeping the headcanon someone suggested from a while back that Cerise is at least half Native American, boo to everyone else.)
Sorry I went on a tangent again no obligation to reply ^^;